<div dir="ltr">Roughly, need 50% more time.<div><br></div><div>Phys also play an important role. If we look at results for 09L from HMON ensemble members, some members did good job,</div><div> </div><div> <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Avichal Mehra - NOAA Federal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avichal.mehra@noaa.gov" target="_blank">avichal.mehra@noaa.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>But we did make runs with 61 (?) levels during our retrospectives. How much more expensive were these as compared to the 43 level operational configuration?<br><br></div><div>Thanks, Avichal.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Weiguo Wang - NOAA Affiliate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:weiguo.wang@noaa.gov" target="_blank">weiguo.wang@noaa.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Avichal<br></div><br>No, we do not have members with large # levels.<br>Most of them are using different phys options.<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Avichal Mehra - NOAA Federal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avichal.mehra@noaa.gov" target="_blank">avichal.mehra@noaa.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Weiguo,<br><br></div>Do you have any ensemble members with larger number of vertical levels? How did they perform for Harvey?<br><br></div>Thanks, Avichal.<br><div><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Hyun-Sook Kim - NOAA Affiliate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hyun.sook.kim@noaa.gov" target="_blank">hyun.sook.kim@noaa.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Avichal,</div><div><br></div>It occurred to me that we have to increase the vertical layer for NMMB. What I saw from today's Meg is that the HMON storm is too strong, too fast, and quick dissipation. Such prediction can be remedied by not only ocean coupling, but also increase in vertical levels. <div><br></div><div>The HMON Gert forecast supports this suggestion, recall Weiguo's post-stamp figures of the large scale flow comparisons against the analysis.</div><div><br></div><div><div>As long as its running time wouldn't be a big issue, we should consider one of upgrades for next year.</div><span class="m_6086313849584215392m_1531421472703704762m_7667208659858672088HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-hsk</div><span class="m_6086313849584215392HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span class="m_6086313849584215392m_1531421472703704762HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><div>-- <br><div class="m_6086313849584215392m_1531421472703704762m_7667208659858672088m_-8732588006021725739gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">Hyun-Sook Kim</span><font style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2"><br>NOAA Center for Weather & Climate Prediction<br>5830 University Research Court<br>College Park, MD <font size="2">20740</font><br>(o)<a href="tel:(301)%20683-3760" value="+13016833760" target="_blank">301-683-3760</a></font><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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